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39 – Children in Fiction

Daystar and Alexander discuss children in fiction, including what makes them realistic and why reactions to them can vary so widely.

Co-hosted by Alexander Wales

With thanks to Tim Yarbrough for the Intro/Outro music, G.A.T.O Must Be Respected

Links

Stranger Things

IT by Stephen King

Dark Wizard of Donkirk by Alexander Wales

Time Stamps

0:31 Advantages of child protagonists

4:43 “Children don’t act like that.”

16:00 Keeping smart/mature children children

20:37 Evergreen methods

26:40 Predictive Processing and “Wonder”

34:33 Pokemon: The Origin of Species

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Hey everyone, this week I’m recommending IT, by Stephen King. While the movie that was recently released was a well made adaptation, it’s impossible for any single movie, or even pair of movies, to capture the world and characters of the book, which is about 450 thousands words long, almost half the length of the Harry Potter series. The reason I’m recommending it this week is because IT is like few other books in capturing the feeling of being children: the friendship, the fear, the tragedy, the lack of control, the imagination, all of it.

There’s also an evil shapeshifting clown monster, of course, an eldritch avatar of fear that is nearly as iconic as any horror monsters out there, but that’s not where I would say the heart and soul of the story is: for me that has always been the characters. The children in IT can at times be caricatures, but they’re caricatures in the ways that kids can be caricatures, still developing who they are as people by committing to one dimension at at time while you watch the other two grow. And seeing them all do this together, to fight an unspeakable evil that only they can face, is fantastically done.

As a rational work, IT is middle of the road: a lot of the monster’s true mechanics are left vague, and what “magic” there is in the story is the wild and unexamined kind. But there are great explanations for why it’s up to the kids to deal with this instead of getting adults involved, and the characters do their best to understand their mercurial enemy and strategize against it without the gifts of particularly high intelligence or rationalist techniques. Mistakes feel organic and understandable, and there’s little if any Idiot Ball holding.

Some content warnings: the book does include a lot of grotesquery, in the forms of gory deaths, including of children. There’s also a sex scene near the end that squiks a lot of people out for understandable reasons. Overall though, I think IT is one of Stephen King’s best works, and the first piece of fiction I think of when I think of writing realistic children. The second, incidentally, is also by Stephen King, a much shorter non-horror novella called The Body, which was adapted into the movie Stand By Me and can be found in the book Different Seasons.

Both can be found at Audible, and if you don’t already have an account, you can sign up for a trial and get a free book at http://www.audibletrial.com/rational

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38 – The Medium of Prose Fiction

Daystar and Alexander discuss the unique aspects of the various mediums of prose fiction, and how new technologies introduce new opportunities and challenges.

Co-hosted by Alexander Wales

With thanks to Tim Yarbrough for the Intro/Outro music, G.A.T.O Must Be Respected

Links

The Northern Caves by nostalgebraist

House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski

The Dionaea House

Homestuck

Dogs of Future Past

Timestamps

5:03 Technological limitations

11:01 Conventions

16:45 New Media

19:27 Music

24:45 Subjectivity

31:45 Mediumception

37 – Power Dynamics

Daystar and Alexander discuss how to plan out and navigate different power dynamics to keep your stories engaging.

Co-hosted by Alexander Wales

With thanks to Tim Yarbrough for the Intro/Outro music, G.A.T.O Must Be Respected

Links

Animorphs: The Reckoning by TK17

Rocky

Hunter x Hunter

Rurouni Kenshin

How to Lose Weight in 4 Easy Steps

Timestamps

0:42 Power in Fiction

3:46 World vs Protagonist vs Antagonist

11:14 New Dimsensions vs Power Creep

14:34 Rationalist Fiction

22:25 Power Differential on a Different Axis

32:55 Powers as Part of Identities

37:01 Protagonist vs Antagonist

47:58 Power in Romance stories

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Hey everyone, this week’s book recommendation is once again, The Dresden Files. As a long series of novels, one of the many things it does well is power progression: at no point does the protagonist feel like he achieved an unearned leap in power between or during books, and the challenges he faces continue to ramp up with his power along a number of different dimensions, rather than just having to fight stronger and stronger monsters.

What’s more, as someone who enjoys rational fiction, I really appreciate how much Harry *learns* from his past mistakes and challenges, and how that is shown to be a type of power all on its own. The ability to make better choices than you used to is probably the single most learnable “power” that we readers will ever share with characters from fiction, and seeing it exemplified by Harry and his friends is something I constantly appreciate.

If you’re interested in checking the series out, the you can find a link to them in the shownotes, or listen to the series on audible by going to audibletrial.com/rational to get a free book credit and help support the show. The audio books are read by James Marsters, the actor who played Spike on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and he does a fantastic job. Hope you enjoy it!

33 – Review of Pokemon: OoS (Spoilers to Ch. 43)

Daystar and Alexander review some of each other’s writing, starting with Pokemon: The Origin of Species.

Co-hosted by Alexander Wales

With thanks to Tim Yarbrough for the Intro/Outro music, G.A.T.O Must Be Respected

Time Stamps

3:30 – Planning the story

8:36 – Present Tense

10:15 Viewpoints

16:39 Goals/Defeats

23:41 Cycles

28:24 Interludes

34:55 Criticisms

Links

Dark Wizard of Donkerk review will be up in a couple weeks!

32 – Multiple Perspectives (Guest: TK17)

Daystar and Alexander are joined by special guest Duncan Sabien (TK17) to discuss multiple perspectives in fiction, including common pitfalls and benefits.

Co-hosted by Alexander Wales

Special guest: Duncan Sabien, aka TK17, Curriculum Director at CFAR and writer of Animorphs: The Reckoning.

With thanks to Tim Yarbrough for the Intro/Outro music, G.A.T.O Must Be Respected

Time Stamps

1:30 Archetypes vs Whole Characters

5:34 Choosing Who Gets what Scene

14:45 Shifting Focus and Disorientation

25:06 Different Character Dialogue

35:30 Differentiating Characters

Links

Animorphs: The Reckoning by Duncan/TK17

Metropolitan Man by Alexander Wales

Shadows of the Limelight by Alexander Wales

Indian in the Cupboard by Lynne Reid Banks

Magic Color Wheel

Odyssey by Vance Moore

Daystar’s friends as magic cards, circa 2012:

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31 – Action Scenes

Daystar and Alexander discuss action scenes and how to ensure they’re engaging and meaningful.

Co-hosted by Alexander Wales

With thanks to Tim Yarbrough for the Intro/Outro music, G.A.T.O Must Be Respected

Links

RDJ Sherlock Holmes

Halo: The Fall of Reach by Eric Nylund

Monster Hunters International by Larry Correia

Kung Fu High School by Ryan Gattis

Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan

Time Stamps

1:23 Action Scenes in Different Mediums

5:38 What Makes a Good Action Scene

11:22 Avoiding Repetition

17:01 Rational Action Scenes

20:07 Pacing and Flow

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30 – Literary Fiction

Daystar and Alexander discuss literary fiction, its values and failure modes, and its similarities and differences from rational fiction.

Co-hosted by Alexander Wales

With thanks to Tim Yarbrough for the Intro/Outro music, G.A.T.O Must Be Respected

Links

Watchmen by Alan Moore

Lost Girls by Alan Moore and Melinda Gabbie

The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen

Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut

White Noise, Don DeLillo

The Name of the Wind, by Patrick Rothfuss

FLEEP, by Jason Shiga

House of Leaves by  Mark Z. Danielewski

The Magicians by Lev Grossman

The Necromancer’s House by Christopher Buehlman

Lord of the Flies by William Golding

The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck

The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain

Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood

Handmaiden’s Tale by Margaret Atwood

Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro

Kafka by the Shore by Haruki Murakami

Time Stamps

01:20 What Qualifies as Literary Fiction?

15:06 Pretentiousness

25: 03 Literary Fiction and Rational Fiction

35:50 Writing Literary Fiction

45:43 Recommendations

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This month, the podcast is being sponsored by Scrivener! It’s a great program to help better organize writing projects, from novels to research papers and more. They’re offering a 30 day free trial, and if you like it enough to buy it, you can support the show by using the promo code RATIONALLY through May 10th to get 20% off.  Hope you find it useful!

Alexander recommends The Necromancer’s House in today’s post-outro Audible advertisement. Sign up for Audible today to get an extra free book by using our promotion link!

http://www.audibletrial.com/rational

Thanks for listening!